Mr. Speaker, I listened with considerable interest to the hon. member opposite when she spoke of Stanley Knowles. I want her to know that I too knew Stanley Knowles. In fact to this day I have a picture of him in my office with a mutual friend. I very much admire who he was and what he represented.
I also want to say that while I do not know how Mr. Knowles would have voted on this issue, it is fair to say that he would have respected the government's position in keeping the universality of the CPP in place for all Canadians. I knew him well enough that I think I can say that. While he might not have voted with us, he would have respected the government for what it has done.
I remind the hon. member that we have had considerable debate on this issue. We debated the bill for nine and a half hours at second reading. Consultations have been held across the country.
When the member says we are ramming the legislation through, does she dismiss the hours and hours of consultation which have taken place?