Order. The hon. member for Kamloops is a very experienced member and he knows that he is not to use props in the course of his debate. While his point may have been one that he feels he should make in this way, I am sure he knows it is wrong to perhaps over-dramatize things by tearing up books and so on in the course of his speech. I would ask him to restrain himself.
He may recall that in the last Parliament we had incidents of this kind and the Speaker intervened. I am reluctant to do so with such an experienced member, but I feel in the circumstances I should draw the rules to his attention.