Mr. Speaker, I listened with great attention to the hon. member. What we have, in those famous words, is a failure to communicate.
The hon. member is once again deluding himself and his government colleagues that there is not a problem out there. He went on at great length extolling the virtues of the NISA program. Yet the member has to know that NISA as it is presently constituted helps those who really in many cases do not need the help. In the past it has been the people with the highest net incomes who were in the enviable position of being able to contribute to the NISA. The people who had no net income and were struggling and did not have the money could not invest in that program. We have always said it was a good program. We have said we would expand it to be an all-farm NISA. It is not the be all and end all. I do not want the hon. member to leave that impression with the farmers who are viewing this debate today.
I ask him if that is his intention. He said it was great that the Liberals were able to deliver tools they need to help them through tough times. The reality is these farmers do not have the tools they need because the Liberal government has failed miserably to act when it had the opportunity.