Mr. Speaker, there is no question that the hon. member has just stated my point. The tax system has traditionally been unfair. It allows the very wealthy, through numerous loopholes, to not pay their fair share. As a result the rest of us ordinary Canadians are going to work and, without any grudge whatsoever, are willing to pay for education and health care. We are giving our dollars to the government and we expect it to deal with our dollars fairly.
That does not mean we want to give up education, health care and social programs. It means that we want this government to be held accountable. It does not mean we do not want those programs.
How on earth would Reform expect a country to survive if nobody but nobody paid for anything whatsoever to help each other?