Mr. Speaker, there probably will be time because I intend to be brief.
First I would like to set the record straight for me and, I am sure, on behalf of my party. I can put some distance between me and the name calling which the hon. member claimed. It is false and I disagree with her.
I have many good friends who have an NDP philosophy. We have many good discussions. In fact some of them have more respect for me than I deserve. That is wonderful.
One of them said he voted for me because he thought I was worthy of the vote. I was very honoured by that. There were many NDP people in my riding who voted for Reform because they believed that our way of dealing compassionately with people in need is the better long term solution, and that is to give people personal integrity, more ability to help themselves and to help others by having smaller government and reducing taxes.
I challenge the member to try to put rhetoric aside and answer this question. It is a very serious question. The fact is when we have so much debt we are really taking all the taxpayers' money and one-third of the money that we take from them we transfer to the rich, namely the banks, the investment houses and so on, in terms of the interest payments on the amount we owe.
Surely she, as an NDP member, must be opposed to that transfer to the rich. I would like her response to that question.