Mr. Speaker, perhaps we could get instant
Hansard
and see where it is that I said that businesses want more big government subsidized programs. I do not think you will find that anywhere in my comments.
What I did say and do stand by is that this is a program that makes accessibility of capital available to the people who in other cases would simply not get it. It is a highly successful program. If the hon. member were to do the balance sheet, he would see that the revenue this government and all businesses gain from this program would be dramatically higher than the cost.