Madam Speaker, the most accurate thing the hon. member for Charleswood—Assiniboine said during his ramblings of the past 20 minutes was something to the effect that now he would try to stick to the facts.
I want to ask him the question I asked his hon. colleague from Hastings—Frontenac—Lennox and Addington earlier in the debate. I asked a very specific question, one that is very simple to answer.
The hon. member is the parliamentary secretary to the minister of agriculture. He sits from time to time on the standing committee, as I do. He was present, I believe, during most of the presentations that were made over the very shortened time that we had Bill C-4 before the committee. I would like to know how many presenters appearing before the standing committee—and I would like him to identify who they would be—supported Bill C-4. How many farm groups would there be?
Second, since he has such great faith in the Canadian farmer, as I do, especially since I was one for about 20 years, would he be willing to have the farmers decide the fate of Bill C-4 with a straightforward plebiscite question?