Mr. Speaker, I truly never thought I would be sitting in this Chamber listening to the Liberals and the Tories bragging about who ran up the best national debt. I cannot believe it. But the member has a point. In 1984 Mr. Mulroney was elected with a landslide on the promise to do something about the debt. He had nine years to do it and he did not.
With the concern about the brain drain that is coming from the Tories, would the member not agree that the brain drain has already occurred, that the people with any brains have left the Tories and joined the Reform Party?