Mr. Speaker, I would simply point out to my friend that not only are these things costed out and not only do we use the government's numbers, but he is in fact completely wrong when he says that the tax relief for Canadians coming from the Reform Party would be $30 billion. It would be $20 billion. I note that my friend finds that quite shocking. It would work out to over $2,000 for the average family of four by the year 2000.
I just want to emphasize for my friend that Canadians are not going to be fooled this time. They have made it extraordinarily clear that they do not want to radically increase spending. I think this is where the Liberals have gone off track. They made a commitment and now they cannot back out.
However, we know that Canadians from coast to coast, by a majority of about 90%, say they want an emphasis on paying down the debt and reducing taxes, not on increasing spending on fuzzy-headed programs that have no end that Canadians can somehow divine.