They all have jobs, my friend is shouting across the way. Then perhaps he could have taken two hours on the weekend and driven down Michigan Avenue. He would have seen that they do not all have jobs. A number of people are homeless. A number of people are suffering. There is an underclass in the United States which does not exist in this country. Why? Because we have more generous social programs. When people fall out of work they are not as desperate to find jobs. They know they are not going to lose their health care benefits, at least under a Liberal government. What would happen, God forbid, under a Reform government, who knows. But they know they are not going to lose their health care benefits if they become unemployed. They know there is a social program to take care of them for a while. We have higher unemployment because we have better social programs.
If hon. members would stop heckling and listen for a bit they would also have heard that in the last four months our economy, compared to the United States, has out performed the American economy.