Debates of Sept. 22nd, 1998

Supply

[Marlene Jennings, Liberal, Notre-Dame-de-Grâce—Lachine, QC]

Mr. Speaker, I have listened to the debate here today with some interest. I have to say, coming from Quebec, that I think all members know that the overwhelming majority of people in Quebec are not only in favour of the gun control act which was already adopted, but also with registration.

One of the reasons is that there are studies that have shown that deaths caused by suicide or accidents can be reduced by limiting access. One of the ways that we limit access is to take control and register guns.

People who are law-abiding will register their guns. Those who are not will suffer whatever the consequences are in the legislation. I think that is perfectly fair. There are a lot of people who know how to drive, but do not get behind the wheel because their licence has been suspended, because they have lost merit points—

[The Acting Speaker (Mr. McClelland)]

I will give the last minute to the hon. member for Tobique—Mactaquac.

[Gilles Bernier, Progressive Conservative, Tobique—Mactaquac, NB]

Mr. Speaker, I am going to talk about myself. I said that I did own a gun. I had an FAC licence. What more do I need? Why do I have to register the same gun twice? If that is not a tax grab, what does she call it?

[The Acting Speaker (Mr. McClelland)]

It being 5.15 p.m., it is my duty to interrupt the proceedings and put forthwith every question necessary to dispose of the business of supply.

The question is on the amendment. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the amendment?

[Some hon. members]

Agreed.

[Some hon. members]

No.

[The Acting Speaker (Mr. McClelland)]

All those in favour of the amendment will please say yea.

[Some hon. members]

Yea.

[The Acting Speaker (Mr. McClelland)]

All those opposed will please say nay.

[Some hon. members]

Nay.

[The Acting Speaker (Mr. McClelland)]

In my opinion the yeas have it.

And more than five members having risen:

[The Acting Speaker (Mr. McClelland)]

Call in the members.

(The House divided on the amendment, which was negatived on the following division:)

Division No. 224

[The Speaker]

I declare the amendment defeated.

The next question is on the main motion. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the said motion?

[Some hon. members]

Agreed.

[Some hon. members]

No.

[The Speaker]

All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

[Some hon. members]

Yea.

[The Speaker]

All those opposed will please say nay.

[Some hon. members]

Nay.

[The Speaker]

In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

(The House divided on the motion, which was negatived on the following division:)

Division No. 225

[The Speaker]

I declare the motion defeated.

The House resumed from September 21 consideration of Bill C-20, an act to amend the Competition Act and to make consequential and related amendments to other acts, as reported (with amendment) from the committee.

Competition Act

[The Speaker]

The House will now proceed to the taking of several deferred recorded divisions at the report stage of Bill C-20.

The question is on Motion No. 1. The vote on this motion also applies to Motion No. 3. An affirmative vote on Motion No. 1 obviates the necessity of the question being put on Motion No. 2.

If Motion No. 1 is negatived, Motion No. 2 will be put to a vote.

[Bob Kilger, Liberal, Stormont—Dundas, ON]

Mr. Speaker, I think you will find unanimous consent to have members who voted on the preceding motion recorded as having voted on the motion now before the House, with Liberal members voting nay.

[The Speaker]

Is there agreement to proceed in such a fashion?