Mr. Speaker, let me tell the hon. member a bit about reality. First, the people of Ontario have gone through tough times in the past. Second, we do not start equalizing tariffs by saying that we will increase ours. That is not a negotiating tool.
It does not make any sense to say we want them to reduce their tariffs and the way we will get them to do it is to increase ours. Quite frankly that is why we have had a long and heavy international regime of high tariff laws. As we put up ours somebody else puts up theirs and by the time we are all through we are all worse off. That is the plan of the Reform Party. It is just a no-brainer. It has not worked in the past and it will not work in the future.