Mr. Speaker, no one is in denial on this side. We have a research and evaluation report on the transitional jobs fund which is very positive.
For example, it says that by the time the program ends more than 30,000 new jobs will have been created, most of which would never have been created without the program. The report says that the program was creating real sustainable jobs and that the majority of the partners were impressed with the rigor and partnership approach of the program.
In terms of the reference about political presence in the program, there is a difference between legitimate political presence—