Mr. Speaker, as usual the Reform Party tries to simplify a complex issue and to confuse people about what it is.
If the hon. member would look at the speech the deputy minister gave, it is very consistent with the Empire Club speech that I gave.
We acknowledge that productivity is a key to growing a stronger economy, to creating economic growth and to increasing the standard of living in Canada. The issue that the hon. member raises, trying to simplify it to simply one or two minor questions, is misleading. The reality is that we have to look at issues like research and development, like the commercialization of scientific research in universities, like—