We do have a dispute as to the facts and to the times.
If I understand the hon. government House leader, he said in his statement that he was going to look into one or two other aspects about this particular incident as to the timing. He asked the hon. member for Red Deer if the hon. member would share with him to try to get to the bottom of all this.
Today we have an apology from the government House leader. I, too, believe it is sincere. I take it at face value.
Yes, the information should have been put in both lobbies. No, it was not. Will that be corrected? The hon. government House leader has said that he will do everything he can to see that this type of thing does not occur again.
On this whole issue of leaks, the opposition House leader says that he has intervened nine times. That is true. He has.
We have given our committee on procedure in the House this particular problem to look at. I anxiously await its report to this House and to see what it has come up with as a suggestion where we, members of the House of Commons, can better regulate these “leaks”.
I would like to believe, as some hon. members have said, that the leaks come only from one side, but I do not. I think the leaks come from all sides. It is the institution that we are dealing with here. It is the institution at this time in history is in our hands.
I hope that in future this type of thing will not occur and I take the hon. government House leader's intervention as telling us that on his word it will not, to the best of his ability.
But, to the other thing about when it was released, as to the times, was it 12.04 or was it 1.05, I think this might be open to discussion. The offer has been made by the government House leader to the member for Red Deer to collaborate, to see if they can get to the bottom of this.
As for me, I judge there is not a question of privilege. But how many times do we have to stand in this House together, to say that we want to do something about this. If we decide to do something, I await some kind of indication from the committee. If it is not forthcoming from the committee, then we will have to look perhaps at some other way of getting a way—and I use this word in the general sense—to police ourselves as members of parliament because we are not only hurting ourselves, we are hurting the institution.
At this point I find that it is not a point of privilege. I hope that it will not occur again. I hope that the committee can come up with a solution to our particular dilemma.