Madam Speaker, again I would like to reiterate my position. Because the minister happens to be sitting here, I would like to draw in the EI plan as well as the pension plans. We must remember in the bad times the government paid and paid and topped it up and built up a deficit and a debt which the whole country paid for. When careful management has built these funds up, in the good times it is time these funds were paid back to all taxpayers of Canada.
As long as the pension payouts are fair we are not doing it at the expense of the recipients. We are doing it because it is the proper and appropriate thing to do at this time in the economy.