Mr. Speaker, let not the President of the Treasury Board confuse the issue.
The employees, civil servants, make a definite contribution to their own pension plan. That contribution is going to be going up after the bill goes through, so do not say they do not contribute anything.
I want to know if the government is going to have a vote with the civil servants to see what they think about taking the $30 billion out of the surplus. Will you have a vote or will you not?