Madam Speaker, it is interesting to watch the Reform members sort of stumble in this process. They realize that what we are doing is something that they probably would consider doing if they were on this side of the House. However, because they see this as good government, they have to try to find things that will go to the worst part of their being. It is unfortunate.
I have a question for my hon. colleague. It is interesting how the member for St. Albert indicated that by putting the money in the black box and not giving it back to the taxpayers or to the employees is the best route. Reformers used to idolize the debt board. They used to get up and look at it as it turned every second along the way, yet when the opportunity is here, because it is the taxpayers' money and being returned to the taxpayer, they are against that. I just do not understand how they would put Canadian taxpayers at risk by trying some cockamamie idea of placing $30 billion in a black box for some rainy day. Will the hon. member please tell me how they can deal with this hypocrisy?