Mr. Speaker, the President of the Treasury Board has insisted ad nauseam that he has the right to take the $30 billion pension surplus because the government has paid the shortfall of about $13 billion over the years. If the plan owes the government $13 billion, where does he get off taking $30 billion to pay for that? I could get better terms from a Las Vegas loan shark. I probably could get better terms from my Bank of Montreal MasterCard.
Why will the Minister not take his $13 billion and leave the rest where it belongs to provide pension benefits for deserving retirees?