Mr. Speaker, I do not quite understand the greedy ambitions. I would point out to the hon. member that currently about 30% of the fund is supplied by the employees and the rest has been picked up obviously by the taxpayers. There is no question that when there was a shortfall it was covered by the taxpayers. One would assume then that there is a significant surplus. It has been pointed out by the actuary. There is more The fact is that there is more than enough in the fund to take out the $30 billion and it will be protected.
In whose interest is it? I would presume it is in the interests of the Canadian public, those who are contributing by way of being a taxpayer and those who are contributing by being a member of the plan. In both cases the moneys are there. This is something we accept in this society.
In terms of fairness, if one reads the legislation one would come to the conclusion that if the fund is covered during shortfall times, the moneys would come out when there is a surplus.