Mr. Speaker, one of the difficulties is that unfortunately, and I pointed it out in my comments, it is not a level playing field. We know subsidies are being provided by other countries. That explains in part to my colleague across the way why some of the things he pointed out exist. I concur with him.
We saw that, as he mentioned, in Kao-hsiung, Taiwan, where China shipyards clearly have that advantage from the government. We are working as a government with our partners around the world, particularly in the next round, to push for liberalization in the market and to make sure about these types of subsidies.
In December 1997 the OECD reported internationally that there was a substantial overcapacity in terms of shipbuilding, which is estimated will be about 40% by the year 2005. We have to work together. We have to stop the kind of things that put us at a disadvantage.
In this country the EDC is working very hard with our shipbuilding industry to make sure we are very competitive where we can be for contracts in the international field.