Mr. Speaker, the hon. member makes reference to Liberal delegates. I can tell him that the Liberal delegates at the convention, like Canadians, have been watching what has been going on in the House. I can tell him that Canadians have been able to separate politics from substance.
Canadians understand what this issue is all about. They know that we are taking the issue of administrative management on grants and contributions very seriously in my department. They also know the importance of grants and contributions in the lives of Canadians. They also know that the puff and blowery that is coming out of that side of the House is nothing more than plain politics.