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House of Commons Hansard #61 of the 36th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament's site.) The word of the day was money.

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A message from Her Excellency the Governor General transmitting supplementary estimates (B) for the financial year ending March 31, 2000, was presented by the President of the Treasury Board and read by the Deputy Speaker of the House.

Supplementary Estimates (B), 1999-2000Routine Proceedings

10:05 a.m.

Reform

John Williams Reform St. Albert, AB

Madam Speaker, I rise on a point of order. We just heard the message saying that the Governor General was recommending some additional spending. I would like to ask the President of the Treasury Board if such spending is justified.

Supplementary Estimates (B), 1999-2000Routine Proceedings

10:05 a.m.

The Acting Speaker (Ms. Thibeault)

This is not a point of order.

Government Response To PetitionsRoutine Proceedings

10:05 a.m.

Scarborough—Rouge River Ontario

Liberal

Derek Lee LiberalParliamentary Secretary to Leader of the Government in the House of Commons

Madam Speaker, pursuant to Standing Order 36, I have the honour to table, in both official languages, the government's response to 13 petitions.

Points Of OrderRoutine Proceedings

10:05 a.m.

Progressive Conservative

Peter MacKay Progressive Conservative Pictou—Antigonish—Guysborough, NS

Madam Speaker, I rise on a point of order. Last night the government gave notice under Motion No. 8 that it would be embarking on an unprecedented attack on democracy in this place. I do not wish to eat into the time of the NDP on their opposition day, but this is an outrageous act on behalf of the government. It is shutting down debate not only in the House but in committees.

The Speaker himself or herself, by virtue of this move, will be brought into the fray and be asked to participate and rule on amendments that may be brought forward in the House. This will limit debate. This is an attack on the use of committees in terms of their reports being brought forward and the ability to file amendments will be severely curtailed.

It creates two classes of members in this place: special privileges that can be afforded to members who are cabinet ministers versus those who are not.

The tools of parliament will be circumvented by virtue of this motion that has been brought forward and notice given by the government House leader.

With respect to this matter, we would respectfully put forward that the Speaker should rule on the privileges of the members of the House who have been severely undermined by virtue of the government House leader in his attempts to shut down all opposition.

We know that the official opposition was given an opportunity under the Nisga'a debate to exercise a certain amount of privilege, and yet what we have seen is another party in the House being severely limited in its ability to do the exact same thing.

Mr. Speaker, I would ask that you consider this unprecedented attack that has been embarked upon by the government House leader. This is, I would suggest, severely infringing on the ability of members of parliament to do their work in this place, to do their work on behalf of their constituents and on behalf of all Canadians in ways that are unprecedented. They are limited on very important pieces of legislation that affect everyone in the country.

Mr. Speaker, I would ask you to consider Motion No. 8 before this is brought to the House for a vote. I would ask the Speaker to rule as to whether this motion is in fact in order at all, because this puts the Chair, you, Mr. Speaker in a position where, as a referee, you are being asked to put on the government team's jersey and play for that side. Mr. Speaker, I suggest that this curtails your credibility and your ability to do your impartial work in this place.

These motions being brought forward, five in total under Motion No. 8 under government business today, once again severely undermines the ability of this place to operate in a coherent, fair and equitable fashion.

Points Of OrderRoutine Proceedings

10:10 a.m.

The Speaker

I am aware of this motion. I read the order paper, as the hon. member did today. I see that not only he but a number of other members of parliament want to intervene on this question.

I am faced with two things. The first is that this motion is not before the House at this point. I do not know if this is the motion that will be presented for discussion. I do not know if it will be added to and I do not know if it will be changed. Until it is before the House, I would prefer to hold any kind of decisions or even debate on it.

The second thing I am faced with is that in normal circumstances, in our practices here in the House, when we do have an opposition day we usually give all kinds of leeway for the people who have presented the motion to have their day in parliament.

With regard to this particular motion, I am aware that there are difficulties for some members of parliament. The motion is not before the House, so I will keep in mind what the hon. member has said thus far. However, I would prefer to receive opinions and advice from the House when the motion is before the House. It is not there. Therefore I will not hear them today and we will go on with our normal business.

When this motion, or any other, is introduced, I shall of course listen to all hon. members who wish to speak on it at that time. We shall, however, wait until the motion is moved.

Motor Vehicle Transport Act, 1987Routine Proceedings

10:15 a.m.

Etobicoke Centre Ontario

Liberal

Allan Rock Liberalfor the Minister of Transport

moved for leave to introduce Bill C-28, an act to amend the Motor Vehicle Transport Act, 1987 and to make consequential amendments to other acts.

(Motions deemed adopted, bill read the first time and printed)

Supplementary Estimates (B), 1999-2000Routine Proceedings

10:15 a.m.

Westmount—Ville-Marie Québec

Liberal

Lucienne Robillard LiberalPresident of the Treasury Board and Minister responsible for Infrastructure

Mr. Speaker, pursuant to Standing Orders 81(5) and 81(6), I move:

That Supplementary Estimates (B) for the fiscal year ending March 31, 2000, laid upon the table on March 2, 2000, be referred to the appropriate standing committees of the House in accordance with the detailed allocation as follows:

As there is a lengthy list attached to the motion, if it is agreeable to the House, I would ask that the list be printed in Hansard as if it had been read.

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The Speaker

Is that agreed?

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Some hon. members

Agreed.

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Some hon. members

No.

Supplementary Estimates (B), 1999-2000Routine Proceedings

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Bloc

Yvan Loubier Bloc Saint-Hyacinthe—Bagot, QC

Let her read it.

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The Speaker

I am afraid there is not consent.

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Some hon. members

Oh, oh.

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The Speaker

Order, please. The President of the Treasury Board.

Supplementary Estimates (B), 1999-2000Routine Proceedings

10:15 a.m.

Liberal

Lucienne Robillard Liberal Westmount—Ville-Marie, QC

Mr. Speaker, I move:

That supplementary estimates (B) for the fiscal year ending March 31, 2000, laid upon the table on March 2, 2000, be referred to the appropriate standing committees of the House in accordance with the detailed allocation as follows:

To the Standing Committee on Aboriginal Affairs and Northern Development

Indian Affairs and Northern Development, Votes 1b, 5b, 7b, 15b, 36b, 40b and 45b

To the Standing Committee on Agriculture and Agri-Food

Agriculture and Agri-Food, Votes 1b, 10b and 20b

To the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage

Canadian Heritage, Votes 1b, 5b, 25b, 45b, 50b, 60b, 65b, 95b, 115b and 130b

Privy Council, Vote 30b

To the Standing Committee on Citizenship and Immigration

Citizenship and Immigration, Votes 1b, 2b, 10b and 15b

To the Standing Committee on Environment and Sustainable Development

Environment, Votes 1b, 5b, 10b and 15b

Privy Council, Vote 40b

To the Standing Committee on Finance

Finance, Votes 5b, 20b, 35b and 40b

Canada Customs and Revenue, Vote 1b

To the Standing Committee on Fisheries and Oceans

Fisheries and Oceans, Vote 1b

To the Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs and International Trade—

Supplementary Estimates (B), 1999-2000Routine Proceedings

10:15 a.m.

Some hon. members

Oh, oh.

Supplementary Estimates (B), 1999-2000Routine Proceedings

10:20 a.m.

The Speaker

Order, please.

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Some hon. members

Oh, oh.

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The Speaker

Order, please. The President of the Treasury Board.

Supplementary Estimates (B), 1999-2000Routine Proceedings

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Liberal

Lucienne Robillard Liberal Westmount—Ville-Marie, QC

Continuing then, Mr. Speaker:

To the Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs and International Trade

Foreign Affairs, Votes 1b, 10b, 15b,.21b, 30b and L40b

To the Standing Committee on Health

Health, Votes 1b, 5b, 10b, 15b and 20b

To the Standing Committee on Human Resources and the Status of Persons with Disabilities

Human Resources Development, Votes 1b, 10b, 15b, 25b and 35b

To the Standing Committee on Industry

Industry, Votes 1b, 5b, 20b, 25b, 40b, 45b, 75b, 80b, 90b, 95b and 100b

To the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights

Justice, Vote 1b, 5b, 10b, 20b, 25b, 35b, 40b and 45b

Solicitor General, Votes 1b, 10b, 15b, 25b, 30b, 35b, 40b and 45b

Privy Council, Vote 50b

To the Standing Committee on National Defence and Veterans Affairs

National Defence, Votes 1b, 5b and L11b

Veterans Affairs, Votes 1b and 5b

To the Standing Committee on Natural Resources and Government Operations

Canadian Heritage, Vote 125b

Governor General, Vote 1b

Natural Resources, Votes 5b, 20b, 22b, and 25b

Parliament, Vote 1b

Privy Council, Votes 1b and 10b

Public Works and Government Services, Votes 1b, 5b, 6b, 25b, 26b and 30b

Treasury Board, Votes 1b, 10b and 15b

To the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs

Parliament, Vote 5b

To the Standing Committee on Transport

Transport, Votes 10b, 20b, 30b and 35b

Supplementary Estimates (B), 1999-2000Routine Proceedings

10:20 a.m.

The Speaker

Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

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Some hon. members

Agreed.

Supplementary Estimates (B), 1999-2000Routine Proceedings

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Some hon. members

No.

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The Speaker

All those in favour will please say yea.