Mr. Speaker, we can listen all we want to the member opposite say that he rejects a two tier American health care system. I can say that his very leader at the Ontario Hospital Association convention not so many years ago preached precisely that. I can quote person after person in the Reform Party who is prepared to stand and talk about a two tier Americanized system. To hear the member opposite caterwaul away and talk about their not being in favour of two tier American style medicine and health care is totally erroneous. He should look at what his party members and his leader have said in the past. Then he would know.
Not so long ago, on February 23, 2000, the Reform Party had prebudget discussions. What did Reform members talk about in terms of how much money they would put into health care in Canada? The answer is a big fat zero. If you were so intent in putting health care money in, why at that time did you not indicate that you were prepared to do so? Talk about duplicity. It is outrageous.