Mr. Speaker, I would like to make a couple of brief points. First, transfer payments are higher now than they were when the Liberals were elected in 1993. I only arrived 1997. They are actually higher. That is a fact. The member can look at the chart.
The other point is the member ignores the fact that the provincial governments have some responsibility in this. They have a responsibility to deliver health care services. What opposition parties would like us to do is either give it all to the provinces or in the case of some members, take it away and let the federal government run all of it.
I do not think either one of those is a satisfactory solution. We have to work with the provinces to deliver better quality health care and not do it at the expense of young Canadians who need our help.