Yes, the government whip sits there to make sure that we have a democratic vote. All the government people sit and vote in favour of a Liberal to be the chair of that committee. That is democracy Liberal style. If they do not, they will be punished. That is why that government whip sits there every time and that is how that works.
I remember very well that when I sat on the Canadian heritage committee a few years ago the Bloc Quebecois was the official opposition. This was a Canadian heritage committee protecting Canadian heritage. It was of course Bloc members who were made vice-chairs of that committee because the government members were told that they had to support—