Mr. Speaker, I would like to follow up on the question that was asked by my colleague because I do not believe it was answered.
The point is that while the minister has put in place in this bill tough penalties for the top level organizers in people smuggling, life imprisonment or a fine of up to $1 million, the fact is that in the next 10 years we will not see anyone face that law. The people who would face the top end of the penalty do not live in Canada. The main organizers are in other countries, in the country of origin.
I would like the member to answer that question. I think it is good and I am glad it is there, but what good and how much effect is it going to have on people trafficking when in fact the top end organizers never will face our law because they operate outside the country?
I have a second question which is on safe third countries. Some people have told me that up to 90% of refugee claimants who come to Canada, who land at our airports or cross our borders, come through safe third countries. For example, many who come to Vancouver would land in Hawaii, so the United States is the first—