Mr. Speaker, that member was shouting so loudly a few moments ago that he was deafening himself with his heckling. I pointed out to the member that the annuities paid out to those MPPs of the Progressive Conservative Government of Ontario were substantially less than the benefits would have been paid under the status quo defined benefit pension plan. That was clearly the case. That was clearly the intention.
In the House of Commons on June 13th, 2000. See this statement in context.