Mr. Speaker, I want to ask the member quite a specific question. He talked about the Canadian Alliance's intention if it is elected. Let us hope that never happens. It will retroactively change the pension. He sang the praises of Mike Harris. Mike Harris took action in Ontario. I do not care what hat he wants to wear, the former president of whatever. Mike Harris got $900,000 when he changed that pension. Bob Runciman got $900,000. Ernie Eves got $850,000. Norm Sterling got $800,000.
In other words, they calculated the unfunded liability, what an annuity would be, and rather than put the annuity in trust they gave themselves the principal. It is a heck of a deal. Just before Christmas an order in council in the Ontario government allowed them to access that money immediately.
Is the member singing the praises of Mike Harris style of pension reform? Is that what he is talking about? The silence was deafening. The silence in this regard from the Canadian Taxpayers Federation and from the Reform Party was deafening. They made instant millionaires out of these people. Yet they parade themselves around as great pension reformers.