Mr. Speaker, obviously the frustration has been well demonstrated. That is why 78% of Canadians say that the system is in crisis. To have the health minister quote a little paragraph today saying that it is not in crisis is shocking. The other opposition members should be attacking a government that would let that happen.
How do we deal with the brain drain? Who cut the seats in universities for training doctors? Who cut the training in specialist programs? I have talked to a number of hospitals and universities. Sixteen universities teach medicine. All of them have said they have had to cut their programs.
The nursing program in the college in the town I come from had 450 applications but only 60 places for training. That is a problem that has come from the federal government. We need to collectively attack the federal government to fix that problem. The system is broken. We have a two tier health care system or maybe, as most professionals would say, a five or six or ten tier system. That is what we should be focusing on. That is the frustration of Canadians.
I repeat that there will be frustration in the House if the motion on which we will be voting does not receive 100% support. The system is in crisis. The system is not sustainable. Status quo is not an option. If anybody in the House says that it is not true, he or she is saying that the system is not in crisis, that the system is sustainable and that status quo is all right. Those members will hide behind the Canada Health Act and say it is wonderful. They will say “Tommy, you did it for us”, but that was in the sixties.
We have to get into the 21st century. We have to do it collectively and all come up with the answers. As mentioned by the whip of the Canadian Alliance, the cry is coming from everybody.