Mr. Speaker, if the hon. member would keep quiet, I would reply.
I do not think he is doing it intentionally or voluntarily. This requires judgment.
I think that for several people it is a dogmatic position. Yet, the notwithstanding clause is in the charter. This House voted in favour of the notwithstanding clause. It voted to have a tool that could be useful. I am not saying that it should necessarily be used, but it is in the charter.
I hope this is the only reason why some members opposite have this attitude.