Mr. Speaker, it is astonishing how the member can stand up and talk about everything other than the true facts.
The fact is that we have an independent board. The big picture is do we want Canadians to have a sustainable CPP or not? From all the evidence, I think the majority of Canadians do. We have undertaken that review since 1997 in conjunction with the provinces and we are now implementing the final stages of it.
In terms of return on investment, maybe the member missed it earlier. The fact is that as of December 31, 2001, the return was 6.2% as against any other publicly funded pension plan, such as OMERS, the teachers' plan, et cetera. In other words, we have an excellent board that is undertaking to make the kinds of investments which are secure for Canadians.
Again, I go back to the member. Does he think that the approach taken here, with the consent of the provinces, which I know his party is always concerned about, is one where there is a balance between the market and providing security for Canadians in the long run?