Mr. Speaker, I think my friend missed the point again. I am not arguing that these are not independent people, they are. I am not arguing that.
My point is that if the government says to the board that its mandate will now be, for instance, to use this money for regional development to some degree, which is what the former finance minister advocated when he was running for the leadership in 1991, then that is what it would have to do. Even though it is independent it would have to find a way to do that because that is its mandate. Some board members might resign, and I would hope that they would.
I would also point out that when it came to the public service pension plan, I do not doubt the independence of the people who ran it. That is not the point. The fact is the government decided that it would come in and take the money away. It has nothing to do with the independence of the people who administer the plan. It has to do with the intention of the government. Frankly, in the past the government's record has been awful.