Hungary, Madam Chairman? I do not know. I have no idea. I think of all the landlocked countries. That is a silly question, because some countries have very small navies and some have large armies. It all varies, depending upon what their particular needs are.
Let me make a comparison which I think has some relevancy. When it comes to spending among the NATO allies, and the hon. member looks very anxious now, we are actually the sixth largest, so there is a fair bit of money that the government is putting into defence expenditures. Although people might cite that Turkey spends 5% of its GDP for defence, it actually spends less money than we do. When it comes to outputs and outcomes, we are unsurpassed by many of these other countries.
We are able to get good results with the taxpayers' money in terms of its investment. The fact that we do not have any new warships under construction is totally irrelevant. We have a very good, modern navy and we will continue to provide--