Madam Chairman, again I would reiterate that I do not think these percentages of GDP are good measurements at all. When there is a situation in which the highest percentage of GDP is Turkey at 5% and we are one of the lowest but we actually spend more money than it does, as we buy more equipment and do more things, what is the relevancy of those percentages of GDP figures?
I will say this. The hon. member asked what I say when I go to NATO. Let me quote George Robertson, who happens to be the secretary general of NATO. I hope the hon. member will listen to this. He said that it is not how much you are spending, it is what you are spending on that really matters. It is outputs, not inputs, that matter to me, he said.