Order, please. Let us not complicate things. Let me remind members that it is never acceptable to name anyone by name indirectly or otherwise. You cannot do indirectly what you cannot do directly, in other words, by means of a quote, use of the name of a member of Parliament, minister or otherwise.
If the member has anything else to add to the same point of order, because others want to speak to it, but I think I have heard just about all I need to hear.