Mr. Speaker, what I can tell the member, as he knows, is that there are 78 cases presently before the courts. Yesterday he put forward some numbers and if we total all of those up they come to approximately $80 million, but when the courts finally decide it could be less than that. That is because until the courts make a determination we can only allege certain fraud.
We know that the actual fraud over the last six years has been $25.4 million. However here is some new information. There is $13.3 million that was levied in fines and 57 years of jail time by the courts.