Mr. Speaker, that is rather confusing. They must be talking to each other. He says it is exactly the same thing, so there is no change.
I can say, as the Minister of Finance did yesterday, that on the issue of infrastructure programs, we are helping municipalities to develop their infrastructure. That has been going on for generations. Canada's federal government has been involved in subsidized housing for a long time. We are even more involved now, and the municipalities are very happy.