Mr. Speaker, I do not want the member opposite to confuse the issue with facts, but sometimes it is necessary to look at the facts.
First, and I will repeat, these funds are not government funds. The funds put in this trust agreement belong to the plaintiffs. They are administered by the three courts. The courts have found a company to do the day to day work which, of course, has an administrative charge.
This is an actuarial surplus. It is not the balance in the account. It is how much more money is in the account to meet future needs than what will be the future costs that will be determined to be the actuarial surplus. It will be presented by the administrators of the fund to the courts. The courts will determine if there is a surplus and how much of a surplus there is based on the information that is presented.
Based on the agreement, we can then look at how to best use the surplus, assuming, and I certainly hope that there is some--