In any event, I agree with the member's premise that we must have more capacity and this loan loss formula is not working. I had a call yesterday from somebody in southern Alberta who said basically what the member just said: the banks will not touch it. They have basically said they will not deal with it. They say to pull it back and replace with something that will work and then they will do it.
I do not know how many new plants the member thinks we can have in Alberta. I gather the proposal is for about 25. We cannot have 25 new plants. We must have proposals that will work whether the border is open or not. I gather from talking to people, as the member does, that there are three or four proposals that would be viable whether the border is open or not. I think he is probably referring to a proposal from a former member of Parliament, if I am not mistaken, who has done a lot of extremely good work on the matter.