Mr. Speaker, I do not think the rhetoric is over the top. I think we are being pretty thoughtful in some of the ideas we are putting forward. I am speaking in the same tone as the former premier of New Brunswick. He believes that the agency has to be revamped, that it has to follow another model and that it has to be renewed, and that is what we are suggesting to the minister.
We understand there are problems with the agency but it is time the government recognize that. The government has been in power now going on 12 years. It cannot blame all of the mistakes of ACOA on the past regime. I have often suggested that the former Conservative government made mistakes at ACOA as well, but this is the year 2004. It simply cannot go back to the past and pretend there is nothing wrong with the agency.
We have some very positive suggestions. We know political interference does occur, and there are many examples--