Mr. Speaker, the internal audit that was conducted in 2000 by the Department of Public Works was made public in September 2000. It was also made public with an action plan that was sent to Treasury Board in early 2001. That identified a number of managerial and administrative problems.
The chair of the public accounts committee in June 2002 held hearings and called before it the two deputy ministers over this period. They both said there was no political interference in their minds, only managerial problems. That is--