Mr. Speaker, if it makes the member opposite feel better, I can use a term that the Auditor General used, and that was fraud. That is what the Auditor General said, and in law, as a former prosecutor, I can tell the member that the mental intent between stealing and fraud is no different. So, let us use the word that the Auditor General did because that is what we are discussing.
In the House of Commons on February 17th, 2004. See this statement in context.