Mr. Speaker, when I listened to the member for Fraser Valley I thought I heard two messages.
First of all, I agree with him that it is important to have this debate, but I still come back to my criteria. The way I see it is that the Canada Pension Plan Investment Board should be looking for optimal returns for the benefit of all Canadians. Should it be guided by the types of considerations that he has highlighted? Yes, I think it should and I think it is.
I do not know how we can have it both ways. I do not know how we can say that on the one hand these companies that are in the defence sector are doing these things but should be not outlawed. I think that is what the member was saying. I am a little confused because I think on the one hand he is saying that perhaps this ethical investing is a good idea, but on the other hand he is saying perhaps it is not such a good idea. Maybe I missed the question.