Mr. Speaker, as the Minister of Finance has just said, government policy is determined in cabinet and by cabinet.
There are outside consultants who may well advise on matters of communication and that kind of thing. There has been no lobbying by any firm of me as far as I am concerned.
I will say to the hon. member that there are outsiders who have certainly given us advice in terms of health care, to begin with, the hon. Roy Romanow.