Mr. Speaker, I would agree that as the member said so eloquently, the issue really is what the Liberal government is doing with our money. This morning the President of the Treasury Board was accusing people of throwing out the aura of dishonest and inappropriate behaviour and not discussing the issues fully. I think that today we have discussed the issues fully and the aura around the government is more of a stench than it is an aura of its behaviour.
One of the illustrations of the government's mismanagement is that the NISA farm program had worked fairly well for farmers, but it built up a surplus of $3 billion. That was farmers' money and partially government money. When I came here in 2000 it was clear that the government was bound and determined it was going to force that money out of the NISA program, and it has done that. The Liberals said that their intention was to get it out of that system because they could not stand that farmers had that kind of money locked up. Yet the Liberals turned around and put $7 billion to $9 billion into these foundations with no accountability.
We are discussing foundations today, but I do not think that is the real issue. Is the real issue not the fact that the Liberal government refuses to be accountable and responsible for taxpayers' money?