And the military.
They took this surplus out of the fund just because they said there was a surplus in it so then it was theirs. But that is not accurate. Those contributions come half from the employer, in other words the government or the taxpayers of the country, and half from the employees themselves, because they contribute to their pensions.
When the Liberals took that $30 billion unilaterally from the civil servants of our country, our wonderful civil servants and our military people, they actually took money to which they were not entitled. If we take half of that, half of the $30 billion is another $15 billion. So there we have the $45 billion from the EI fund and the $15 billion in excess taken back out of the surplus from the pension fund, and there is the $60 billion.
In other words, the Liberals have not done a thing in terms of making the actual operations of government more efficient. They have merely taken money that they were not entitled to and applied it to the debt. And there they are, standing up and crowing about how wonderful they are because they have made such fantastic achievements in the financial end.
I submit that this government cannot be found guilty of good fiscal management. If charged with being guilty of good fiscal management, they would win the case: they are not guilty.