Mr. Speaker, this is an interesting debate. I would like to add a point and hear my colleague's comment.
I have a constituent who was a member of the armed forces and was part of the negotiating team when the pension was changed. His comments to me were very direct. He said that this is the worst kind of political manipulation that there could possibly be. He said that they negotiated for a better pension. They had a pension where members could receive it sooner, take an earlier pension at a lower benefit and therefore get more in the long run.
I would appreciate hearing the hon. member's answer on the political manipulation.