Mr. Speaker, I do not think I will spend my minute trying to convince the hon. member for Winnipeg Centre, who has always run down asbestos. As one of my colleagues just said, he is narrow-minded when it comes to this matter—this matter in particular. However, there are limits to demagogy. I also said that in my speech.
I did not talk about nine countries that banned asbestos, but 37 countries. The hon. member for Winnipeg Centre talked about 40 countries. We can verify whether there are three more. This means that two thirds of the countries worldwide use chrysotile. In my opinion, all these people and all these countries do not live on Mars, but on planet Earth. There are 37 countries that banned it—let us say 40 countries to make the hon. member happy—but two thirds of the entire world happily uses chrysotile.
As far as figures are concerned, the 137 member countries of the International Labour Organization unanimously passed Convention 162. Convention 162—and the hon. member must be familiar with this— recommends the strict regulation of chrysotile and limits its recommendation for a prohibition to the use of amphiboles.