Mr. Speaker, I wish to clarify a point first. The previous member mentioned that there was a whipped vote the last time with three rows of ministers and parliamentary secretaries. That is not true. The parliamentary secretaries were never whipped, but only the parliamentary secretary under whose department the legislation fell. It was only the parliamentary secretary to the minister of justice and the small group of cabinet ministers.
I hear the Conservatives kibitzing and they can stop because they whipped the vote on a very important nation motion a few weeks ago and lost a cabinet minister because of it, so I would not boast about that.
I understand the member's passion and it was very reasonable, but is he not upset that the motion we are debating and voting on cannot lead to any outcome because the Prime Minister has said that if this motion were to pass, then he would do the outcome. However, he would refuse to do the outcome because the only way to implement a positive outcome is by changing the Charter of Rights and Freedoms or using the notwithstanding clause to override--